john padest, ruben from move on. what are they going to be pressing for. >> i think it's obvious preaching to the choir. these folks will want to see taxes go higher, particularly on the wealthist of people, and the president has promised tax increases on people earning $250,000 and more. and they'll want to make sure that the entitlement spending is locked down tight that there are no cuts. these are people who are aligned completely with the president's point of view east talked about it for many months now. bill: they drew card number one to get in the door. i mean they are first up. as jerry points out, they are in lock step with how they want taxes to go higher, the tax rates now on wealthy americans over $250,000 a year. >> they are going to pop champagne because they have four more years of obama on their side. they will be very happy about that. jerry hit it on the head. this meeting is pointless to me. obama is on the same page as them already. we've seen the last four years what stance he's taken as far as